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Alex Lehmer (adl004)
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Dillsburg, PA, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:33 am Post subject: Why "footbag" over "hacky sack?" |
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| I've noticed alot of people on this site who are very strict on the terminology of our sport, specifically with the use of "hacky sack" to mean footbag. I want to know from the rest of the community why this distinction is so important. It seems to me that hacky sack is similar to kleenex in that one brand became a common name for the whole industry. And besides, hacky sack is a more common name in general; relentlessly refering to the sport as "footbag" seems very unnecessary and pretentious. Perhaps someone can enlighten me about the militant use of the word "footbag." I just wanna know what the rest of you think. |
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Colin Macfarlane (darkspike)

Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Mount Pleasant, SC
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| IMO, "hacky sack" is just like kicking the bag around, not practicing, not knowing any tricks, not a serious form of the sport. While footbag kinda states that you take the sport seriously, know tricks, practice and execute them. Kinda like how rollerblading is referred to as aggressive inline by competitive skaters. |
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Jeremy OWheel (owheelj) IFPA Member
Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 1508 Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Hacky sack is the name of a very specific footbag that isn't very good to use.
I think ultimately it doesn't really matter what people call it, it's just that "footbag" is the correct name and hacky sack is not. You can call sheep "shep" if you want and it doesn't change anything about them or really matter at all, it's is just not the actual name for sheep.
Why be wrong when you know what the right thing to do (or say) is? |
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Steve Goldberg (brat) IFPA Member

Joined: 23 Aug 2003 Posts: 351 Location: San Carlos, CA, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| More specifically, "Hacky Sack" is a registered trademark of Wham-O, Inc. By definition, that means we are not entitled to use it to refer to our sport, since it refers to their specific product line. |
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Doug Fox (dougsta)

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Alfreton, Derbyshire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| Colin Macfarlane (darkspike) wrote: | | IMO, "hacky sack" is just like kicking the bag around |
If you ask me - which you didn't - then, isn't "just kicking a Hacky sack (or footbag) around" a skillful and potentially athletic pastime? I can't really see how kicking it around doesn't equate to being at beginner level.
Anyway, i call anything to do with my feet and a footbag....Hacky Sack! |
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Alberto Inocencio (alberto) IFPA Member

Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Florianopolis, SC, Brazil
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeremy OWheel (owheelj) wrote: | | Why be wrong when you know what the right thing to do (or say) is? |
... and they lived happily ever after |
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Alex Lehmer (adl004)
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Dillsburg, PA, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| This isn't about being right or wrong. I know that the proper name for the sport is "footbag," but in the big picture does it really matter if, in casual conversation, it's called hacky sack? I would agree that it should be called something more formal for official business, but in a normal conversation it really doesn't matter. |
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Josh Bishop (OpticalShadow)
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 25 Location: North Fort Myers, FL, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| well hacky-sack is a brand name and foot bag is a sport, its like refering to all shoes as nike. However i personally dont care, ill call it hack-sack more often then not simply because most people know what a hack sack is and it makes the whole conversation that much shorter. |
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Jack Willis (green420jdubb)

Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Posts: 19 Location: Syracuse, NY, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve Goldberg (brat) wrote: | | More specifically, "Hacky Sack" is a registered trademark of Wham-O, Inc. By definition, that means we are not entitled to use it to refer to our sport, since it refers to their specific product line. |
Then instead of calling it Hacky Sack, I'll just say Hack so there is no lawsuit...not that Wham-O inc. is gonna target all who call footbag "Hacky Sack" |
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Logan Longfellow (logload)

Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 8 Location: Lake Oswego, OR, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I just call it hacky sack because it's what everyone else calls it (cept for people on this forum) and I'm used to it. If words are for communicating ideas and people get confused if I call it footbag then I would much rather just call it hacky sack so they know what I mean... And I don't think it really matters what you call it, I call weed Pot, Marijuana, Weed, Chronic, Nugs, etc. and all are fine.. lol.. best example I could think of. |
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Paul Linhart (Cee187) IFPA Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 8 Location: Marlton, NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| apparently the word "hacky sack" is the trademarked name of a footbag. Since this sport can't steal copyrights, it was forced to use the word "footbag". I don't know any one irl who actually calls it "footbag", but w/e. |
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Richard Steinmetz (thedogfly) IFPA Member
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 5 Location: LaJunta, CO, USA
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: hi all |
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just thought i would say a few words, I might be rhe one who started all this talk about what to call what ,what do you think Steve you where there?untel the beaver open in 1979 every one called it Hacky sack ,then some one introuduced a new foot bag and the talk was on,Any one rember the Soc Sac? ,Foot bag is the Game Hacky Sack is a bag one of minny used these days |
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Reyad Moura (reydar)
Joined: 27 Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| OK bottom line is, that the sport is actually called footbag. Hacky Sack is the name of the shitty mass produced footbags made by wham-o inc. Its like calling the sport by the name of the most popular brand that makes the sports products. for example, we do not call Hockey "CCM" just because ccm makes the more known (but definitely not the best) hockey products. The end. thread over. buh-bye. |
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Jonathan Miller (ChrisMiller) IFPA Member
Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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This is the most boring topic ever. lol
But, to add my 2 cents, I probably made the same topic when I first started. I wondered why it was called footbag, and then someone told me it's because the founders of the sport sold the rights to Whammo. I then proceeded to call it footbag like everyone else and would readily correct anyone who did otherwise.
After a few years of playing I call it hackysack with anyone who isn't a footbag player, and footbag to other footbaggers. In my own head, I refer to it as "kicking" or "I'm gonna go hack" I don't need to sit and explain to random strangers why it's called footbag every time they stop me to ask about the sport. It's just not something I care enough about. |
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Jonathan Carano (elmo27)
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Bristol, VA, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:49 am Post subject: |
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im calling it hacky sack and thats that its a good sport so  |
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