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Scot Hansen (scothansen)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Same game, different name? Reply with quote

I've heard many conversations over the years on the issue, it was brought up at the Conference on the Future of the Sport at Worlds '07, and I know it's been mentioned once or twice on the forum here.

The name "footbag net" sucks. It sounds lame and I hate having to say it when people ask me "what is that game you're playing?"

I am starting this thread so that all can post their ideas on a potential new name or thoughts and opinions on the current name of our wonderful sport.

To date, the only other realistic alternatives I've heard are "net footbag" and "kick volley". Yves Archambault originally came up with "kick volley", and I used to make fun of it quite a bit, but I must admit that it has completely grown on me.

What do YOU think???
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Jeremy Mirken (TheSpecialist)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me Footbag Net is a fine name. If someone knows the word footbag, and they have a concept of the word net, then that person is going to understand
that our sport invloves using a footbag over a net.

Foot Volley is a fine name for a sport too. Does it provide a clearer picture of how our sport might be played? To me, not really. It seems that half of the people on this planet probably do not have a concept of what constitutes a "volley."

One of the major drawbacks of changing our young sport's name would be that people who google hacky sack might not immediately stumble onto an explanation of the sport of "kick volley."

In other words,
Hacky> footbag>footbag net.

Hacky> __?__> kick volley.

I have spent time thinking and have not come up with a better name than Kick Volley, but I don't agree that it is the right time in this sport's timeline to change its name. Changing the name isn't going to introduce the sport to 500,000 new people.
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Theodore Fritsch (yyz)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must assume(which is bad) that the name discussion is trying too further develope interest in the sport?
Having stated that, I personally could think of a thousand other things that could spark more interest in foobag period. The top of my list would be more demonstrations. The WFA use to put together touring teams, which I can draw a direct link from them to most of todays top performers. Maybe the IFPA should consider this?
Well I guess that could not easily be done from the comforts of a computer key board!!!
Hope to see all you kick volley players at my next footbag demo, tentatively scheduled for just after christmas in chicago Ill.
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Russ Arsenault (Calumniate)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hackminton dude - hack the planet!
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Russ Arsenault (Calumniate)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5I1kAO1baU
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Olli Savolainen (opa)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy Mirken (TheSpecialist) wrote:
Foot Volley is a fine name for a sport too. Does it provide a clearer picture of how our sport might be played? To me, not really. It seems that half of the people on this planet probably do not have a concept of what constitutes a "volley."

Smile
Volley - in sports: "The flight of a ball before it touches the ground".

I tend to believe this definition of volley is really everyday language for people generally interested in ball games. I'm quite sure that more people in the world are familiar with 'volley' than with 'footbag'.
Also, in footbag net you ALWAYS kick on the volley.
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Evgeni Shiryaev (evshi)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to all you guys said the sport should have name volleybag:)
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Iisak Liukko (trubadur)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy Mirken (TheSpecialist) wrote:
Foot Volley is a fine name for a sport too.

There is already a sport called Footvolley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footvolley
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Christopher Siebert (conan)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russ Arsenault (Calumniate) wrote:
Hackminton dude - hack the planet!


Hahaha...good one Russ! Hackminton Laughing

Just call it footbag. Anyone who asks "footbag net or freestyle?" is already familiar with the sport.
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Steve Dusablon (dusablon)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hack Fu

nuf sed
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Emmanuel Bouchard (manu)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, I think KUNG-SACK is better.

So who owns kickvolley.com ?

www.kickvolley.com

www.kickvolley.org

www.kickvolley.net

No wonder people want to change the name...
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Jeremy Mirken (TheSpecialist)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I'm so happy that you and Yvez are working together to better our great sport. As long as you guys are being so proactive, you might as well merge your respective kickvolley sites into one mega-site. Then you guys could have a monopoly on kickvolley sites!
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Jim Derricott (jimderricott)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q. What does 'Ultimate' have to do with Disc or Frisbee?

A. Nothing, but the name rocks.

Q. What does 'Joust' have to do with Footbag Net or Hackminton?

A. Nothing, but the name rocks.

You'll all come around to my way of thinking eventually.....
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Evgeni Shiryaev (evshi)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emmanuel Bouchard (manu) wrote:
Steve, I think KUNG-SACK is better.

So who owns kickvolley.com ?

www.kickvolley.com

www.kickvolley.org

www.kickvolley.net

No wonder people want to change the name...


Cybersquaters is in the house!
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Paul Vorvick (Vorvick)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Footbag Reply with quote

Hey All:

I used to do demo's with Johnny Stalberger and the boys in the 70's. (At the time, nets were seven feet high. Strategy was to set to the back court and screen so that the "spiker" could send a flat-as-possible shot over the net.)

As I recall we called this game "Footbag." (I agree, "Footbag Net" doesn't really roll off the tongue.)

It was in line with baseball being played with a baseball, American football being played with a football, basketball being played with a basketball...

Johnny patented the "footbag" (a physical object) and used "Hacky Sack" as the brand. I think there was some patent issues with calling the activity by the same name as the physical object.

Shunny? Huff? Stalberger? Anyone? Need some verification.

If there were a change, my vote would be to simply call the game "Footbag."

V
PS Played net on Saturday, which is more than I can say for Dusablon.
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