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Kyle Pineda (pineda)



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: pickup, hop over, clipper Reply with quote

ok so i've become fairly proficient with my legovers, walk overs,and i have a pretty good wrap. so i wanna move to the hop over and pickup predominatly. not so much the clipper just yet but i do have a couple question.

1. i know that the pick up is just a reverse legover but something with the motion just dosen't feel right. the hop seems off and the dex turns bad from that point. my in>out atw's are better then my out>in's so i really can't find the problem?

2. hop over, is very difficult i can't seems to get the bag to stay, and my bodies "afraid" to jump like i'm gonna get hurt really badly or something. about what height should the bag be from the ground and what should i be doing to get the bag to stay?

3. lastly my clipper question. timing is big with this move esspecialy when you get into strings. so that leads me to my question. The little hop that needs to be done for the move is that more of an "on your toes" type of thing or should you stay flat and just put a real deep bend in the knee?
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Roy Klein (RoyKlein)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: pickup, hop over, clipper Reply with quote

Kyle Pineda (pineda) wrote:

1. i know that the pick up is just a reverse legover but something with the motion just dosen't feel right. the hop seems off


Did you try it without hopping? I know that for myself, doing a hop in pickup makes it harder, rather than easier (like in legover).
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Benjamin Benulis (ironcladben)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) for the pickup, try to think of it as a mirage bailed to the dex leg toe. It's a hippy dex, not a leggy one. Jobs-wise it is a reverse legover, but the way your body dexes it is different. Pickup is much more in the hips, while legover is more in the knee. A good mirage helps for pickup. Also, I find this move easier from clipper than from toe, but that may not be a possibility right now if you're still not hitting clippers consistently yet.

2) I can't do this move so I really can't help you much here. The one guy I know who hits these regularly says the key is to keep your arms and your shoulders up high, for what that's worth.

3) Great question. Yes, the hop is key! Hop to landing on your toes. You'll still bend your support leg knee naturally to cushion the fall and delay the bag at the same time. DO NOT do it flat footed. That is a bad technique that leads to injury and bad form in the long run. I am currently in the process of fixing my flat footed clippers. It's a heck of a lot easier to learn it the right way first than fix yourself from doing it the wrong way. Don't go down that road. Hop into the move, land on your toes and synchronize that with a knee bend in your support leg. Flat foot = BAD.
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