Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 187 Location: Ellenville, NY, USA
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:46 am Post subject:
thanks john!! Why would we not want the general footbag public involved in rule changes? OOPPSS sorry you said voting. Well they should have a voice and with out a vote, since IFC members are not elected, this could be difficult! Yes john they are experienced and well intentioned(also under appreciated) However we still have a lot of players griping about this recent change in the rule book!! To be honest only a very few have commented here, i heard a lot of complaining this passed year. I like the odea of a discussion group here at footbag.org, atleast if there was a discussion group than i could tell people " hey you should have expressed your concerns here at this site on this link.
Apparently for the purpose of this discussion John has been very helpful. If you find that a particular tournament is going to run a scoring system that you do not like, than i would go and not play under protest of said system. I may also simply choose to not go!
As i see the rule book today I do not see a rule that says a particular tournament MUST choose there scoring system prior to requiring registration fees being paid( ie choosing and not being able to change system prior to close of registration). Considering the various views here this could be a real problem for directors who will be confronted with people who WILL not play a particular system if per say they have to change the system due to perceived timing difficulty do to weather, number of entrants, or some other time delaying event. if there is a rule and i missed it, sorry. If there is not one than there should be one REAL soon.
For the people who do not want these scoring systems, You should explore the link john gave me and see what the steps are to change the rules to only recognize one scoring system.
As a advocate for the beginner, I DO NOT want to be teaching new people three or more scoring systems, THERE IS ALREADY WAY TO MUCH TO LEARN IN ORDER TO GET GOOD AT NET!! I can only hope that directors will see this and stick to the most common scoring system!!
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 46 Location: Oakland, CA, USA
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:19 am Post subject:
Agree to disagree it is.
For the record however I personally still prefer to play tournaments with standard side-out scoring.
I do see a place though for rally scoring though within our sport. It works great at our practices when we have multiple nets that are linked. And when we condensed Green Cup into 2 days this year it helped ensure players weren't taxed out one week prior to Worlds. That was a HUGE consideration.
The jury is still out.
There is NOT a serious push right now to replace standard side-out scoring at all tournaments. It is being discussed by tournament organizers, which is fine. The more players that try the other scoring systems the better. It would be great to get more feedback form players that have played rally scoring or GSM for a few months straight... I know you are thinking why fix it if it ain't broke - but isn't there a reason that volley ball and takraw went to rally scoring?
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 302 Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject:
I think Volleyball and Takraw had television airtime concerns that forced them into trying to condense the time of matches.
This is a problem that we do not currently have and therefore do not need to fix.
I would also like to point out that volleyball started out as side-out scoring, got extremely popular in the 90's, got on TV and were compelled to change their scoring system, and then promptly fell out of public favor (unless they wear bikinis).
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