Marcos Ofenbock Nascimento (abrafoots) IFPA Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 5 Location: Curitiba, Paraná, Brasil
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: FOOTSACK - FROM BRAZIL
I´ve met the footbag "hacky sack" in australia in 98, and always tought
to bring this sport to my country Brasil.
I bought some bags and start to kick with my friends and was amazing,
but we go further and explore the other sides of the sport.
As you know, Brasil is famous in the hole worl for your Soccer
habillities, the people here when see something in the ground don´t think
twince, they kick.
it´s in our Blood!!!!
And we start to kick the footbag with more intensity too!!!!
You can imagine what happened aftewards.....
we mixed the net, the takraw, the footbag, the footvolei, and here
baptazide::
the FOOTSACK!!!!!
we even created a Brasilizan Associacion of the Sport, as you can
see in the link below:
We lincencied the bag in the major football clubs in the Brasil, this soocer clubs are taking this new sport as part of the training of the soccer skiils and
now we start to introduced in the scholls as part of phsical education program.
please take a look at our version of the game, we use full body
contact and we have diferent rules, and the size of the field is diferent too:
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 741 Location: Austin, TX, USA
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject:
I saw some Footsack videos on YouTube a few months ago. I think it's great you guys have your own sport like this and it's doing so well!
Venezuela and Colombia had the first South American Footbag championships this past year. I think it would be great to bring in Footsack and Brasil as part of that
Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 330 Location: Oakland, CA, USA
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject:
I am happy to see footbag/footsack expanding to a new area of the globe! We have always wondered when kicking sports other than Futbol would enter the mainstream and how they would be received by the public.
The game that you play over the net is very similar to Footbag net:
After watching a couple of those videos, I see that your ball is very different than ours. It seems very light in weight. What is it made out of and who makes it? Have you ever kicked with a footbag made specifically for the net game? They are quite hard, similar in size to the balls you are kicking, but they are probably a bit heavier.
Next year, I hope that quite a few North American people will be going down to South America for a footbag tournament. Maybe you will be there to exchange ideas . . .
Marcos Ofenbock Nascimento (abrafoots) IFPA Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 5 Location: Curitiba, Paraná, Brasil
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Footsack
First at all i´de like to thank you guys for the awsers.
We really work hard to bring this new sport to many people as possible, and and i thank to the world of the footbag cause whitout the footbag, footsack would never exist.
When a met the footabg in australia in 98, i just play circle and in Brasil we start to play with the net of a mini-voley, then i met the footbag net, but it´s bit harder to play the footabgnet by the net oficial rules, and we mixed with the Foot- Voley, another Brazilian Sport.
I had a bag for footabg net, and if you don´t have a advanced level of tecnica, the game in the net is harder for beginers.
So me and my friends, started to use a crochetd bag insted a net bag and we took other dimensio of the field, a smaller.
And like foot-voley we start to use full body contact, and the game become more easy, even for those who never played footbag before, this i think it´s because brasil is the land of the football.
But the bag we use in footsack we made lillte modification that mke the diference in the game, we use plastic pelets, but we take a cover of A tissue named Suplex, in this plastic pelets, and in the final the cover of chrochet.
This cover of Suplex makes a " pump" efect in the bag and it´s diferent from all the crochets bag in the world. We got the registration patent in Brasil for this invent.
And we got a Association of Old Women who make the crochets, and it´s a social program too. Today it´s 200 womens. It´s a social inclusion program.
I will enter in contact with the venezualan association and the next champioships for sure that we gonna make a partenrship.
Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 54 Location: San Cristóbal, Táchira, Venezuela
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:54 am Post subject:
Hey Marcos! Wasup! Im Carlos, from Venezuela, I´m the director of the IFPA South American Footbag Committee, Eu estou feliz você escrevi no forum jejeje , i speak portuguese a little, and if you can read spanish would be great too. those things you´re doing to promote footsack in brazil are great! I have tons of ideas we can apply to support footbag and footsack each other, for example: begginers to footbag net could learn by playing footsack, this includes kids and people who hasn´t developed yet the skills to put any challenge on a footbag net court... and footbag net clubs could sell footsack equipment for that matter. This way both sports would reach the targets we need!.. well these are just two of the bunch of ideas that are crossing my mind thinking about footbag-footsack partnership ...
Another great thing is that Venezuela - Colombia -Brasil are brother countries, we are relatively close to have constant contact by events, business etc, i see a bright future for Footsack and Footbag in South America
lets keep in touch via this forum and email or messenger, you can add my msn address: fushidoman2@hotmail.com , or fushidoman2@gmail.com, we can organize things this way, and keep up that drive! i hope you can come to the 2008 IFPA South American Footbag Championships, will be in Bogota, or in San cristobal- Vzla, next december,
By the way, i met a Brazilian guy who has a Footbag club even a website www.footbagbrasil.com, his name is Alberto Gomes, he´s very nice and could be a good contact, http://www.footbagbrasil.com.br/ , take a look maybe could be useful for you.
Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 54 Location: San Cristóbal, Táchira, Venezuela
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:11 am Post subject:
By the way, you have an incredible merchandising strategy!! , great image, logo, the animation of the little street sign guy coming out of the sign and start hacking its reaaally cool, and i read you even sell a collection of bags with the logos and names of the teams in serie A do futebol brasileiro (for american guys, the brazilian soccer league), that's amazing...
Marcos Ofenbock Nascimento (abrafoots) IFPA Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 5 Location: Curitiba, Paraná, Brasil
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: Grande carlos!! irmano sul americano!!!!
Hola Carlos!!! hablo espanhõl un poco tambien...
It´s great to have brothers in south america, specially brothers figthing for the same ideas!!! I think that united nothing can stop us.
Your ideas about about the partership Footbag/Footsack are very cool my friend and i totally agree with those.
We are doing a great job here in Brasil progressing the sport among the people.
Now we made a project with the prefecture of my city and we gonna put Footsack court in 15 schools, and every time i give a introduction lecture about the sport and i show slides and movies of the Footbag, and the children go crazy asking me what´s that!!!
When is gonna be the IFPA 2008 in Venezuela? it would be a good idea go there and and change experiences.
I´m glad you like it our marketing strategy, i think Brazil has a gigantc potencial for this sport, and one thing that i didn´t know is the footsack company logo was copy in a champioship of footbag in Praga in 2003.
A advertising company created this logo, and i though what original idea, after i knew that logo already exist, but it´s a cool logo.
The the football clubs in Brasil are taking the idea too, they are using the bag for trainnig sideline-coordenation, accuracy, and kicker sharpness.
I think our football will level up, after the contact with the bags.
let´s keep contact brother!!!! i really apreciate your ideas
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 288 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject:
Wow that is great that a footbag net sport is taking off in Brasil! More power to you!
I have to say I am also saddened by your very accurate analysis of footbag net: too difficult for beginners. Here we have another example of a foot sport taking off because the rules are designed to make it FUN for beginners. Unfortunately, footbag rules evolved to make the game more challenging for experts.
I have been championing soccer rules or smaller nets (Foot-C) for beginners for years. I say do all you can to get people involved and coming back to play. Good luck to you Marcos!!
I'm glad to hear from you. I did saw your videos on youtube 6 months ago and I just love your version of playing with a footbag/footsack over a net.
I mentionned in another thread that it would actually be great for footbag net if something like a footsack type of discipline would catch on. Because it is much more newbie friendly, it would make so much easier to expose more people to playing with a bag over a net.
I personnally would encourage hometown circle players to start to play footsack first and then if they want more challenge, there's our "extreme" version if they want to. I know that the transition would not be necessairly easy. I remember when i started to play footbag net 20 something years ago, we could make contact using knees and body. Taking that away was so hard at first.
Marcos Ofenbock Nascimento (abrafoots) IFPA Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 5 Location: Curitiba, Paraná, Brasil
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject:
Hello Brothers!!!
Thanks again for the awsers, when the things move on, we built together a structure that never will falls.
With a lillte help from my new friends!!
Conan, i totally agree with you, when you say that footbag net is hard for beginers too, and as introductive to get new people you have to show something relative easy and enjoyable.
This is one thing why footsack is taking off here, is is easy to play in singles and doubles and competitive too.
Martin, i´m very glad that you like it and what you said it´s true footsack could be the first step for the footbag net, people learn the basics playing footsack and if they whant the " extreme" version go the the footbag net.
Could be a link between the sports.
I will translate all the rules, but to you understand the basics it´s like the footsabg net mixed with tennis:
the court dimension: 5 meter length x 10 meter lenght
the net has a height of 1,5 meter
it´s allowed to do 2 touchs in the bag and you can use full bode contact, but not your hands and arms, your head, your chest and the legs.
the sack has to be on the diagonally and you and in the reception it´s the only time that´s is obligatory to do 2 touchs in the bag for the return, after this you can return the bag with one or two touchs.
you can use you head to pass the bag to the other court, but have to respect the one meter line near tne net, it´s like the 3 meter lene in the voley ball. you have to jump before the one meter line for use your head, we created this one meter line for not crack head with head in the net.
you can´t cross your foot over the net . and cant tocuh the net eighter.
take a look at the game, by the way it´s me with the white shirt..rs
But i wiil translate the oficial rules, and send the link.
Chang, i gonna enter in contact with Alberto the IFBA president to make a partenship!!!
AND AND I´DE LIKE TO MAKE A INVITATION TO ALL YOU GUYS:
COME TO BRAZIL!!!! WIIL A BE APLEASURE SHOW THE HOSPITALITY AND FELLOWSHIP OF THE BRAZILIAN PEOLPE, ESPECIALLY THE BRAZILIAN WOMEN!!!!!
AYAYAYAYAYAY CARAMBA!!!!! RS
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
jejeje , i speak portuguese a little, and if you can read spanish would be great too. those things you´re doing to promote footsack in brazil are great! I have tons of ideas we can apply to support footbag and footsack each other, for example: begginers to footbag net could learn by playing footsack, this includes kids and people who hasn´t developed yet the skills to put any challenge on a footbag net court... and footbag net clubs could sell footsack equipment for that matter. This way both sports would reach the targets we need!.. well these are just two of the bunch of ideas that are crossing my mind thinking about footbag-footsack partnership 
